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		<title>By: Rivers</title>
		<link>http://kenchristianson.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/brandon-flowers/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Rivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 07:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is in reply to your Tuesday post about what else you should have done. I can&#039;t comment on that particular entry so I&#039;m making due. Imagine that this immediately follows the May 26, 2009 post.

You were supposed to pick up my mysterious phone calls. You know you want to, and the more you deny yourself, the more stalker-ish I feel, leading to a decline in my idea of self-worth. You can avoid this by simply answer your cell, silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in reply to your Tuesday post about what else you should have done. I can&#8217;t comment on that particular entry so I&#8217;m making due. Imagine that this immediately follows the May 26, 2009 post.</p>
<p>You were supposed to pick up my mysterious phone calls. You know you want to, and the more you deny yourself, the more stalker-ish I feel, leading to a decline in my idea of self-worth. You can avoid this by simply answer your cell, silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://kenchristianson.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/brandon-flowers/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahhahahha Ken this is hilarious...I&#039;m glad you&#039;re doing something productive with your birthday present! Miss ya bro...come back to Bangkok!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahhahahha Ken this is hilarious&#8230;I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re doing something productive with your birthday present! Miss ya bro&#8230;come back to Bangkok!</p>
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		<title>By: gren</title>
		<link>http://kenchristianson.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/brandon-flowers/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>gren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 06:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to have to say Ken is more talented, though on the lazier side.</description>
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		<title>By: hgsxiii</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He is talking about the close-minded people here in the US that are not open to new music.&lt;/i&gt;

No, I don&#039;t believe that&#039;s at all true. But let&#039;s parse this and see, shall we?

&quot;But over here [in America], people are still so obsessed with Led Zeppelin and Nirvana, those sorts of bands, that nobody else is allowed [to grow].&quot;

&lt;b&gt;Nobody is allowed to grow.&lt;/b&gt;

Oh, really? If that were the case, Nirvana wouldn&#039;t have been ground-breaking because &quot;obsessed&quot; Led Zep fans would be so &quot;closed-minded&quot; they would shun anything that they felt &quot;threatened&quot; the pedestal they&#039;ve put them on.

It&#039;s &lt;b&gt;INSULTING&lt;/b&gt;, to fans, to true musicians, and to real artists, what he said, lumping the music tastes of the American populous into one tiny box labelled &quot;closed-minded&quot;, based on the FACT that his band is, as a very good friend of mine that happens to be a fan of The Killers says -  &quot;so NOT in the same league as Led Zep.&quot; 

I take the above statement as:  &lt;i&gt;It&#039;s all the fault of music fans and bigger bands that came before us, that we aren&#039;t on a pedestal like Led Zep, and we should be.&lt;/i&gt; (If you can clearly, rationally, and maturely present a &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; counter-argument to that assessment then please do so, because all most anyone has done here is just call me names and say &quot;Ken SUCKS!&quot; as their argument, and I&#039;ve grown wary of the bullshit and would like to get back to the business at hand.)

FUCK. THAT. NOISE.

How is that not insulting? How is that NOT whining that he isn&#039;t as &quot;successful&quot; as he desires to be in America? 

Nobody said they aren&#039;t at all successful, what was said was this:
1 - his definition of success is convoluted
2 - as &quot;successful&quot; as he is, he is misguided enough to believe that his success is being hindered by greater bands and music fans
3 - selling out arenas and record sales does not &lt;b&gt;automatically quantify as talent/worthy of success/artistic integrity&lt;/b&gt;, considering the popularity of crap such as The Spice Girls, The Jonas Brothers, and Nickelback. Clearly, there is &lt;b&gt;no correlation&lt;/b&gt; between the two, so it is &lt;b&gt;NOT&lt;/b&gt; valid proof of a band&#039;s/musician&#039;s/artist&#039;s merit.

As Brandon said, &quot;people don&#039;t like that attitude&quot;, (in reference to his delusional notion that Led Zep and Nirvana should be removed from lofty status so that he has a chance at similar greatness, or that they should be up on just as high a pedestal, and they aren&#039;t because of music fans). 

We don&#039;t like it because, borrowing/paraphrasing Kenny&#039;s words for a moment, it&#039;s completely &quot;megalomaniacal&quot;.

Megalomaniac: 1  : a mania for great or grandiose performance    2  : a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur

For those still confused about the point to this blog - Brandon, in so many words, has lamented that his band is not embraced in America as Led Zep and Nirvana, and he blames MUSIC FANS, because he believes they &lt;b&gt;should be&lt;/b&gt;. Seriously.

So now everyone is supposed to just scramble to put him on a pedestal to assuage his ego? I don&#039;t think so. 

Brandon and the High-Horse he rode in on can &lt;b&gt;Lick My Starfish&lt;/b&gt;, as can the lot of you that have done nothing but sling petty insults as opposed to maturely discussing the ISSUE, that only THREE POSTERS (myself included) seemed to have grasped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He is talking about the close-minded people here in the US that are not open to new music.</i></p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t believe that&#8217;s at all true. But let&#8217;s parse this and see, shall we?</p>
<p>&#8220;But over here [in America], people are still so obsessed with Led Zeppelin and Nirvana, those sorts of bands, that nobody else is allowed [to grow].&#8221;</p>
<p><b>Nobody is allowed to grow.</b></p>
<p>Oh, really? If that were the case, Nirvana wouldn&#8217;t have been ground-breaking because &#8220;obsessed&#8221; Led Zep fans would be so &#8220;closed-minded&#8221; they would shun anything that they felt &#8220;threatened&#8221; the pedestal they&#8217;ve put them on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s <b>INSULTING</b>, to fans, to true musicians, and to real artists, what he said, lumping the music tastes of the American populous into one tiny box labelled &#8220;closed-minded&#8221;, based on the FACT that his band is, as a very good friend of mine that happens to be a fan of The Killers says &#8211;  &#8220;so NOT in the same league as Led Zep.&#8221; </p>
<p>I take the above statement as:  <i>It&#8217;s all the fault of music fans and bigger bands that came before us, that we aren&#8217;t on a pedestal like Led Zep, and we should be.</i> (If you can clearly, rationally, and maturely present a <i>real</i> counter-argument to that assessment then please do so, because all most anyone has done here is just call me names and say &#8220;Ken SUCKS!&#8221; as their argument, and I&#8217;ve grown wary of the bullshit and would like to get back to the business at hand.)</p>
<p>FUCK. THAT. NOISE.</p>
<p>How is that not insulting? How is that NOT whining that he isn&#8217;t as &#8220;successful&#8221; as he desires to be in America? </p>
<p>Nobody said they aren&#8217;t at all successful, what was said was this:<br />
1 &#8211; his definition of success is convoluted<br />
2 &#8211; as &#8220;successful&#8221; as he is, he is misguided enough to believe that his success is being hindered by greater bands and music fans<br />
3 &#8211; selling out arenas and record sales does not <b>automatically quantify as talent/worthy of success/artistic integrity</b>, considering the popularity of crap such as The Spice Girls, The Jonas Brothers, and Nickelback. Clearly, there is <b>no correlation</b> between the two, so it is <b>NOT</b> valid proof of a band&#8217;s/musician&#8217;s/artist&#8217;s merit.</p>
<p>As Brandon said, &#8220;people don&#8217;t like that attitude&#8221;, (in reference to his delusional notion that Led Zep and Nirvana should be removed from lofty status so that he has a chance at similar greatness, or that they should be up on just as high a pedestal, and they aren&#8217;t because of music fans). </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t like it because, borrowing/paraphrasing Kenny&#8217;s words for a moment, it&#8217;s completely &#8220;megalomaniacal&#8221;.</p>
<p>Megalomaniac: 1  : a mania for great or grandiose performance    2  : a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur</p>
<p>For those still confused about the point to this blog &#8211; Brandon, in so many words, has lamented that his band is not embraced in America as Led Zep and Nirvana, and he blames MUSIC FANS, because he believes they <b>should be</b>. Seriously.</p>
<p>So now everyone is supposed to just scramble to put him on a pedestal to assuage his ego? I don&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>Brandon and the High-Horse he rode in on can <b>Lick My Starfish</b>, as can the lot of you that have done nothing but sling petty insults as opposed to maturely discussing the ISSUE, that only THREE POSTERS (myself included) seemed to have grasped.</p>
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		<title>By: Leanie</title>
		<link>http://kenchristianson.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/brandon-flowers/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Leanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the statement that Brandon made...

&quot;We’ve been embraced in Britain in a way that I’ll never understand, and it’s such a wonderful thing. But over here [in America], people are still so obsessed with Led Zeppelin and Nirvana, those sorts of bands, that nobody else is allowed [to grow]. It’s not just us; there are a lot of great bands that have been held down or confined by the influence of these people that we’ve put up on pedestals. I’m tired of it, you know? I just want to knock them all off! And people don’t like that attitude. It’s almost like they don’t believe that it’s possible that anybody else can be the real deal.&quot;

- The Killers&#039; Brandon Flowers tells Entertainment Weekly

He is talking about the close-minded people here in the US that are not open to new music.  The Killers have a lot to offer.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the statement that Brandon made&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;We’ve been embraced in Britain in a way that I’ll never understand, and it’s such a wonderful thing. But over here [in America], people are still so obsessed with Led Zeppelin and Nirvana, those sorts of bands, that nobody else is allowed [to grow]. It’s not just us; there are a lot of great bands that have been held down or confined by the influence of these people that we’ve put up on pedestals. I’m tired of it, you know? I just want to knock them all off! And people don’t like that attitude. It’s almost like they don’t believe that it’s possible that anybody else can be the real deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>- The Killers&#8217; Brandon Flowers tells Entertainment Weekly</p>
<p>He is talking about the close-minded people here in the US that are not open to new music.  The Killers have a lot to offer.<br />
I don&#8217;t blame him for feeling frustrated&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Temujin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Temujin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, guys, chill. 

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There&#039;s no need for name-calling. 

I&#039;m a huge fan of the Killers; I find their lyrics inspirational and they have stuck with me through the years and helped me through a lot. For me, no matter what the issue is, the lyrics are perpetually applicable and can help me solve whatever problem I face.

I don&#039;t know any of Ken&#039;s music; I don&#039;t really know who he is, so I&#039;m not going to bash him. I do, however, feel that some of his claims are ludicrous, such as the claim that Brandon Flowers is not hardworking. Quite to the contrary, the band tours for 2 years straight following an album and spends their time off writing new material (fellow tk supporters, correct me if I&#039;m wrong). I just don&#039;t feel that you can accuse people of misguided ambition or confidence when you aren&#039;t familiar with them or their work. 

Just, everyone chill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, guys, chill. </p>
<p>Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There&#8217;s no need for name-calling. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of the Killers; I find their lyrics inspirational and they have stuck with me through the years and helped me through a lot. For me, no matter what the issue is, the lyrics are perpetually applicable and can help me solve whatever problem I face.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know any of Ken&#8217;s music; I don&#8217;t really know who he is, so I&#8217;m not going to bash him. I do, however, feel that some of his claims are ludicrous, such as the claim that Brandon Flowers is not hardworking. Quite to the contrary, the band tours for 2 years straight following an album and spends their time off writing new material (fellow tk supporters, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong). I just don&#8217;t feel that you can accuse people of misguided ambition or confidence when you aren&#8217;t familiar with them or their work. </p>
<p>Just, everyone chill.</p>
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		<title>By: LifeInTechnicolor</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 07:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon Flowers is entitled to his opinion, and to have his personal ambitions as an artist. Leave him the **** alone.

I personally admire them for setting their standards high -- and contrary to your claims otherwise, they do work hard, have genuine talent and are very successful for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon Flowers is entitled to his opinion, and to have his personal ambitions as an artist. Leave him the **** alone.</p>
<p>I personally admire them for setting their standards high &#8212; and contrary to your claims otherwise, they do work hard, have genuine talent and are very successful for it.</p>
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		<title>By: TK888</title>
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		<dc:creator>TK888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand having a difference in opinion on what is &quot;good&quot; music, but just trash talking someone doesn&#039;t do anyone any good.

First of all the killers ARE successful. Secondly, do watch that Letterman video and try to tell me they don&#039;t have talent. Lastly, the killers didn&#039;t get where they are today without some serious hard work.

Take some advice and don&#039;t post negative things about the killers again, because that is not a battle you can win. And to quote Brandon from that same article, &quot;... fuck off.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand having a difference in opinion on what is &#8220;good&#8221; music, but just trash talking someone doesn&#8217;t do anyone any good.</p>
<p>First of all the killers ARE successful. Secondly, do watch that Letterman video and try to tell me they don&#8217;t have talent. Lastly, the killers didn&#8217;t get where they are today without some serious hard work.</p>
<p>Take some advice and don&#8217;t post negative things about the killers again, because that is not a battle you can win. And to quote Brandon from that same article, &#8220;&#8230; fuck off.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And also, since when did ambition hurt anything? Do you believe that any of the great rock bands became great without having drive or confidence in themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And also, since when did ambition hurt anything? Do you believe that any of the great rock bands became great without having drive or confidence in themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, 
You don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about, do you?
Your post has made that quite clear... 

The Killers are one of the best bands around today. They are a huge touring act, and sell many albums worldwide. They have had many other hit songs besides Mr. Brightside, and they have a very large and diverse following. 

Go buy some of The Killers albums, go see them live, do some research, and then &#039;maybe&#039; you can write an informed article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,<br />
You don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about, do you?<br />
Your post has made that quite clear&#8230; </p>
<p>The Killers are one of the best bands around today. They are a huge touring act, and sell many albums worldwide. They have had many other hit songs besides Mr. Brightside, and they have a very large and diverse following. </p>
<p>Go buy some of The Killers albums, go see them live, do some research, and then &#8216;maybe&#8217; you can write an informed article</p>
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