Brandon Flowers
Here is my special address to Mr. Brandon Flowers. Remember him? Maybe not. I’m lead to believe that no one will remember anything else but Mr. Brightside 5 years from now. One pop hit. Congrats. Anyway…
In a recent interview with NME, Mister Flowers claimed that it is because of bands like Led Zepellin and Nirvana that bands like The Lose– er, the Killers are being “held down.” Really? Is that really it, Brandon?
May the musical Illuminati somehow, someway, infect your brain so that silly and stupid comments cease to pour out of your pretty boy mouth.
It takes a very weak human being to blame or credit anyone else for their failures or successes. You, by your own talent, your own intellect, your own will shape how you view yourself and how others view you. Unfortunately, no one can save a megalomaniac. I don’t think anyone can save a douchebag, either.
Mister Flower Pedals, this hypothesis of yours is a little flawed. You claim that the reason for your non-success is because of the success of others. I’m fairly certain that the real reason for your non-success is because of your lack of talent and hard work. I don’t blame anyone for my non-success. But then again, I don’t really view success the way you do, Brandy. I think Bill Cosby once said: “I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everyone.” I think maybe you just have a jaded view of success, Brandon.
When history calls, I’d be willing to put money down that The Killers won’t be placed alongside bands like Led Zepellin or Nirvana. I’m pretty sure they will be residing in the “Where Are They Now?” file.
You will not believe the can of worms you just opened up with your twisted views.
Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it…
lol who the FUCK are you to talk shit about Brandon and The Killers??? You are laughable…you dumbass. You think they suck b/c Brandon Flowers happens to be good looking? Yeah you probably look like a swamp tick. you WISH you were as relevant as The Killers or Brandon, but youre not. Youre just like every other fuckwad internet blogger talking shit behind a computer screen. Why dont you say it to their faces since you know them so well fucker LOL get a life dude.
Thanks for your response!
I just listened to about 1 min. of one of your songs and you know what I thought to myself. “I don’t have to eat shit just because it’s served on a plate”. I’d rather be forced to listen to Nickelback for 24 hours straight then have to endure one more second of your so called music. 5 years from now the killers will be the biggest band in the world and you’ll still be a nobody!!
Actually, he’s rather empirically, aesthetically attractive. But even if by the hands of Fate he *did* look like a swamp tick, it still wouldn’t negate his opinions on the matter.
If you think he truly believes the idiot lacks talent solely because of his physical appearance, I urge you to re-read the post after you’ve put down the crack pipe, and maybe with the aid of a GPS/Navi system, because you have COMPLETELY missed the point.
He doesn’t need to wish he were as relevant as utter crap, because he’s inherently got more talent then all of them could ever hope to encompass.
As for “getting a life”…you’re guilty of trolling and hurling insults, from behind a computer screen, because you disagree with an opinion you can’t legitimately dismantle.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
If The Killers will fall under the “Where are they now” file, its not looking too good for you blogman. You will fall under the “The 35 year old that still lives at home in his mommy’s basement” file. So…hmmmmmm I wonder where The Killers are now???? Oh I know…they are hitting EVERY MAJOR CITY IN THE WORLD on a world tour selling out dates left and right. Youre just in your moms basement lol. peace dooooooooooooooooosh
WOW. I LIKE THE WAY YOU PUT THAT! I JUST LAUGHED WHEN I READ HIS INTERVIEW, BUT IT’S NOT THE FIRST TIME HE SOUNDS LIKE A WOMAN…THIS GUY {BRANDON} SOUNDS LIKE A CRYBABY IN THIS INTERVIEW…HE WANT’S TO BE ON A PEDESTAL, THAT’S THE THING…AND WHAT BLOWS MY MIND IS THAT HE IS SUCCESSFUL! HE’S JUST NOT NIRVANA!
As Henry Rollins says in regard to Nickelback Fans in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9S5-EB8dR8
“GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY CAR!!!!”
Nickelback = Poop on a Stick
You know who else hit every city in the world? The Spice Girls. That’s not exactly a mark of talent, so much as a sign that people with less discriminating tastes will always perpetuate the cycle of greedy music execs flooding the industry with bubble gum, and sheep will chew it up and love it.
*ahem*
Sounds like a woman? Thanks for the stereotype. Not all women are whiny, simpering idiots, I’ll have you know.
No, he isn’t Nirvana. I’m not Kim Deal. Life’s not fair – you deal and move on. It’s that in his warped little head, success is something rather cheap and disposable, like his music, and he wonders why he isn’t “fulfilled”.
Stupid, stupid man. (See that? I just used a stereotype, too.)
Are there people out there still super seriously bitchin about Brandon’s interview???? Seriously?????
STOP MISQUOTING BRANDON!!!!!!!!!!! He never ever fucking said his band is “non-successfull”. They are your words assface. Clearly you have not checked out album and concert sales. It is funny that you have the nerve to sit there and bitch about a very talented songwriter and singer when you clearly could never come close to accomplish what Flowers accomplishes in one mothafuckin day. How many fucking cds have you sold lately??? Do you even have a record contract? But do whatever you have to do to feel better about yourself.
Obviously you are not intelligent enough to understand what I was saying. I said that I would rather be FORCED to listen to Nickelback because as much as they fucking suck and they really really suck, you just happen to suck more!!
you just compared the killers to the spicegirls lol. you are WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TODD ID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im done with ya!!
“ahem”
Hgsxiii,
I am soooooooooo happy you can read Brandon’s mind to know that he isn’t “fullfilled”. That is news to me and the rest of the world. And his music is cheap and disposable??? Im sorry you must have him confused with Ken Christianson.
(The reply option isn’t showing up under your latest response.)
Actually, I completely understood what you were saying, and it has sweet nothing to do with how intelligent I may or may not be. But the fact that YOU think Nickelback is preferable to Ken’s music is entirely LAUGHABLE.
You wouldn’t know how much I suck, but you wish you did.
I compared the “evidence” you “cited” as success – hitting every major city – with another entity that did the same. Did you need me to spell it out for you? Would you like a flow-chart as a visual aid?
Album sales and concert sales are NOT a mark of TALENT. Are you seriously going to argue that anyone that can sell out a stadium or hit the Billboard top 50 are inherently talented? Do you even understand what the definition of the word talent, is?
From Merriam-Webster: 3: the natural endowments of a person 4 a: a special often athletic, creative, or artistic aptitude
If record sales quantify talent, then according to Billboard, Britney Spears and Nickelback are chock full of it. So really, YOU do the math on whether or not my assessment that industry standards are complete bullshit, and then you can “school me” on what real talent is.
P.S. And unless Mensa invites retards to join them, trying to debunk my argument by calling me retarded is…well, retarded. Admit that you’re “done with me” because you can’t present a real argument against me.
Yes, I can read his mind. I’m fucking awesome, and yes his music is cheap and disposable – no more innovative, inspirational, or imbued with integrity than if I were to rip off the 10 most popular rock songs and re-release it as my own.
I’m not confused. I simply find your hearing is wasted on you, as you have no appreciation for what music should be.
Well from the way that your so vehemently defending this Ken, I can tell that YOU DO SUCK, HIS DICK, A LOT!!
Right. Insinuating that I’m on my knees under his desk is an even MORE SOLID argumentative tactic!!
Do you have ANYTHING LEGITIMATE to bring to the table, whatsoever?
Keep on using lame, internet troll maneuvers, because that’s all you have.
A mind reader and a Mensa Member!!! Holy Fuck, is there anything you can’t do?????????????? Can you tell the future too?? Because if you can, please tell Ken that in 10 years he will still be in his moms basement fucking YOU!!
Obviously you haven’t listened to all of the Killers music or you wouldn’t be writing what you have been. And don’t lie and say you have………Listen to all their albums and read their lyrics and then you can come back here and say what you want to. Until then, shut the fuck up.
wow…pretty amazing post here. It’s amazing that most of you responding to Ken’s post are missing the point altogether. while I might actually like some of the Killers stuff, Ken does make a good point that Brandon said something awfully stupid. i’m sure you ask anyone why the Killers aren’t as great of a band as Led Zepellin or Nirvana (historically speaking now, you can argue with me if you want but let’s face it…Led Zepellin and Nirvana were HUGE bands and had unparalleled world-wide success) it’s because they had timeless music and did something no one at the time was doing musically. i’m also pretty amazed that you responders sit back and talk about how Ken sucks so bad…when, well, at least he’s doing something. Love to see some of the shit the rest of you do. in fact, from a journalist’s perspective (which I am) Ken seems to be fairly prolific — he’s got a ton of music and projects under his belt for what seems to be like a fairly young individual.
so the point that all of you seemed to miss is that Ken wasn’t whining about how he’s not successful because of Brandon Flowers and the Killers. He was just stating that Brandon is being, as he called “a douchebag” for blaming their quote “non-success” on the success of other better (don’t hate, but let’s face it, Nirvana and Led Zepellin were better) bands.
Holy Fuck, is there anything you can’t do??????????????
I can’t find Frank Black’s mind or Carmen SanDiego…but that’s about it.
In ten years I’ll PERSONALLY make you eat those words.
And I don’t have any cause to lie or listen to all their music. It’s a free country and I’m welcome to say whatever I like, as are you. Everyone flaming this post has got their panties in a twist because they can’t handle a differing opinion, which is quite sad.
If you don’t like what you’re reading, you’re free to STOP.
Ditto that, man.
At least *someone else* got it. I don’t mind being the only one that “gets it”, but it’s nice to have company once in a while.
oo, just had to respond a bit more, especially to STARLA…
let’s talk about lyrics, sure.
I’m trying to rack my brain here….but pretty much every song the Killers have ever done is about Love. Am I wrong? pretty much the easiest subject to write about?
going through ken’s lyrics…on his site…he’s covered quite a scope of subject material.
Heres some Killers lyrics:
Sitting here on the bed,
Trying to clear my head,
But Brooke you just won’t budge,
So I look back instead,
Why’d you go away?
Useless when I say,
Hey,
Baby I’ll be the best
‘Cause I’m a jealous mess,
So wash your hands from all this dirt,
And take my words for what they’re worth,
Baby I’ll be the best,
But you stand to protest,
And my stomach has been so abused,
Your confusions got me so confused,
But everything will be alright
If I get trashed tonight.
WOW. Pretty amazing there, STARLA.
i think it’s this line that shows you the true genius behind The Killers:
“your confusions got me so confused”
Lyrics. Right. Good one, STARLA.
go to a library and find a book to read, you obviously have some fundamental linguistics to work out.
There’s a reason that song isn’t on any of their albums. He wrote it when he was about 18. What wonderful things did you do when you were 18??
And not every song is about love. Very few of their songs are about love.
“Cause i don’t care where you’ve been
And I don’t care what you’ve seen
We’re the ones who still believe
And we’re looking for a page
In that lifeless book of hope
Where a dream might help you cope
With the Bushes and the bombs
Tranquilized”
hmmm, not about love
oo, I see…
so when he’s not talking about love his lyrics still suck.
Good point. Well done, MRSDULLBRAIN
Okay gnarlycarly. Here’s some of Ken’s lyrics.
so i’ve got to go but you really must know/i just wanted to say i had a wonderful day with you/now that it is done and we’ve had all our fun/i just wanted to say i had a wonderful day with you/i may not see you soon maybe every june/i just wanted to say i had a wonderful day with you.
Man, if he doesn’t win songwriter of the year at the grammy’s this year, i’ll be totally shocked! I mean rhyming go and know, and soon and june. Truly groundbreaking stuff!
I stand corrected. Really. The Killers have got to be the most AMAZING band, EVAR, with lyrics that profound. I rescind all my previous statements in defense of Ken and I will go hang my head in shame.
Sorry, Kenny. I thought I knew what real music and talent was but I was so very, very wrong. But don’t worry, even though I’ve been “converted” to The Other Side, I’ll still go to your shows because, let’s face it, I never *truly* appreciated your music because deep down inside I’m just a Star-Fucker, and although you were The Flavor of The Month, I won’t pass up an opportunity to put my helmet and knee pads to use.
bob dylan, heard of him? rhymes ever line.
I actually think this song is quite nice and simple — not trying to be anything other than it is not.
so, again, good one, SHOTGUNDOUCHE.
A swiiing…..and….a miss.
TLC won a Grammy for that piece of trash CrazySexyCool, and “Waterfalls” was their biggest hit, ever. You ever read those lyrics?
UTTER TRIPE.
Again, I stand by my statement that industry standards mean NOTHING.
Bob Dylan was booooo’ed at the Newport Folk Festival for going Electric, and he rhymes quite a bit…apparently there really is no accounting for taste.
Jinx on the Dylan reference. You owe me a drink, man.
Yes, but Bob Dylan has actual talent so he can get away with rhyming every line. Shotgundouche? That’s original. Your fellow mensa members would be so proud of you, your vocab is growing. Nice!!
Is gnarlycarly in Mensa, too? Wow…fancy that.
Or maybe Shotguneyes is so blind he doesn’t even see/know whom he’s arguing with.
Your the same fucking person dude!! Any blind man can see that!!
THE KILLERS SUCK!!!
ALL OF YOU SUCK TOO!!!!
WTF are you talking about, Shotguneyes?
It’s “You’re”, as in YOU ARE, not “YOUR” as in it belongs to you.
And actually, we aren’t the same person. See, I actually have valid points and don’t need to resort to troll tactics like concocting internet alter-egos to back myself up.
What are you, 12? You sure fight like a baby. When you’re ready to leave the sandbox and fight with the Big Kids, let me know.
You can read minds. Figure it out yourself bitch!! Nice usage of the emoticons by all three of you!! Good work!
“When history calls, I’d be willing to put money down that The Killers won’t be placed alongside bands like Led Zepellin or Nirvana. I’m pretty sure they will be residing in the “Where Are They Now?” file.”
Although I bet they will be higher up in that file than you Ken.
Funny thing about WordPress…that little image on the Right….even if you aren’t registered on the site, the image is tied to your I.P. address, therefore you always have the same image when you post.
It doesn’t take rocket science to deduce that gnarlycarly and I are two people that support Ken.
It also doesn’t take more than a modicum of brain matter to pinpoint the differences in speech patterns, the spelling, etc. that identify us as two individuals.
again…
missing the point…
again….
Ken never compared himself to the Killers. Ken never blamed the Killers for his career. He was saying that Brandon was whining by blaming his dull response from American listeners because of two other much bigger, better bands.
I have a feeling Ken doesn’t really care where his is in the file.
You got some work for us to look at, MrsBrightside?
Oh, YOU’RE so sadly mistaken. See, I linked this page on a killers fansite, so get ready for a long night cuz it’s only just beginning. You call me Shotgundouche but i’m resorting to baby tactics. Where the fuck is Ken anyway, is he at another of his pre recorded performances tonight or does he always get his girlfriend to fight his battles for him.
My my, you’re a mis-informed little twat bag, aren’t you? You go headline every major festival on the globe and come back with some relevant opinion when someone knows who you are. Until then, you’re just a bitter man who wishes he could get his quote in the NME. Maybe if you had this kind of ambition that Brandon possesses then the NME might take notice of you, they like people with big mouths.
You’ve gone from calling me retarded, to a cocksucker, to a bitch, and yet you STILL haven’t provided anything beyond petty insults to backup your argument.
Bitch Bitch Bitch, Whine Whine Whine, Moan Moan Moan…you’re are full of nothing but shit and hot air.
Are you getting tired of me smacking you down? Do you need a nap, little baby? Maybe a cookie?
Oh I know what you need: A SCROTUM
Barring that, I’m calling the Waaaaahmbulance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNFs9bkD9jQ
Watch this Kenny and tell me this man doesn’t have talent!
NO KEN!!! DON’T WATCH!! SHOTGUNEYES IS TRYING TO TRICK YOU!! SHIT RUBS OFF!!
In smaller words, one last time: I am NOT gnarlycarly. Gnarlycarly is NOT me.
I did not call you a douche. Not that I wasn’t thinking it, but I didn’t call you a douche. If I were going to start name-calling, I’d call you a Festering Twat-Waffle.
And in regard to this: “does he always get his girlfriend to fight his battles for him…”
Why should he waste his time “defending” his opinions against people that can’t even adequately dismantle it in the first place, and refuse to do anything beyond hurl ludicrous insults? He’s secure enough in himself and his work that any “attack” by a pack of blathering morons isn’t going to make him all huffy and puffy and full of a burning desire to prove something.
I’m not his girlfriend, but the more you insinuate that my choice to backup his opinion couldn’t possibly exist with the intensity it holds if I weren’t sexually or romantically involved with him, the more I think you’re harboring some sort of latent jealousy that there isn’t anyone out there willing to go to bat for you with the same degree of passion.
I don’t have to be involved with someone to fully support them. Perhaps you have me confused with someone like you. Your machismo, misogynistic bias does more damage to you than it does me.
If shit rubbed off I’d be listening to Ken right now wouldn’t I?
Are you shitting me with that argument? His opinion is completely relevant and has shit to do with whether or not he’s headlined a festival. Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds, considering the vast majority of music critics have absolutely ZERO experience as headlining performers?
His post wasn’t at all bitter, or whiny, or lamenting his “lack” of “success”. He doesn’t lack success by any means. What he lacks is the misguided notions that so many “musicians and artists” out there buy into that would persuade him to cheapen his integrity in order to make him a “radio-friendly” sellout.
Creating for the love of creating, and not because you have a god-complex to feed with “global popularity/acceptance” is beyond the capability and comprehension of bands like The Killers. The fact that they’re Hell-Bent on upping their popularity in the U.S. and have the NERVE to say that better musicians are the reason they lack the audience they desire is DELUSIONAL, at best.
They are being held back by THEMSELVES…that is the point of the original post. But whatever – cling to your willful ignorance and continue to insist that there are people who refuse to buy into the mass-marketing in preference for music that actually holds weight instead of fluff.
the Killers are very successful, stupid. they have many epic songs and you sound ignorant criticizing someone you really don’t know.. they’ve sold many albums, so how in the world does that not spell success? he is happy with his work & so are the Killers fans, & that’s all that matters. good job trying to get attention.. no one even knows who you are except you dissed an amazing band.
GnarlyCarly, I am so impressed that you googled yourself a couple of lyrics of The Killers. Those few lyrics must mean that ALL of their songs on ALL of their albums are about love, AND that must mean that they suck. Thanks for pointing that out.
Ken,
You don’t know what you’re talking about, do you?
Your post has made that quite clear…
The Killers are one of the best bands around today. They are a huge touring act, and sell many albums worldwide. They have had many other hit songs besides Mr. Brightside, and they have a very large and diverse following.
Go buy some of The Killers albums, go see them live, do some research, and then ‘maybe’ you can write an informed article
And also, since when did ambition hurt anything? Do you believe that any of the great rock bands became great without having drive or confidence in themselves?
I can understand having a difference in opinion on what is “good” music, but just trash talking someone doesn’t do anyone any good.
First of all the killers ARE successful. Secondly, do watch that Letterman video and try to tell me they don’t have talent. Lastly, the killers didn’t get where they are today without some serious hard work.
Take some advice and don’t post negative things about the killers again, because that is not a battle you can win. And to quote Brandon from that same article, “… fuck off.”
Brandon Flowers is entitled to his opinion, and to have his personal ambitions as an artist. Leave him the **** alone.
I personally admire them for setting their standards high — and contrary to your claims otherwise, they do work hard, have genuine talent and are very successful for it.
OK, guys, chill.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There’s no need for name-calling.
I’m a huge fan of the Killers; I find their lyrics inspirational and they have stuck with me through the years and helped me through a lot. For me, no matter what the issue is, the lyrics are perpetually applicable and can help me solve whatever problem I face.
I don’t know any of Ken’s music; I don’t really know who he is, so I’m not going to bash him. I do, however, feel that some of his claims are ludicrous, such as the claim that Brandon Flowers is not hardworking. Quite to the contrary, the band tours for 2 years straight following an album and spends their time off writing new material (fellow tk supporters, correct me if I’m wrong). I just don’t feel that you can accuse people of misguided ambition or confidence when you aren’t familiar with them or their work.
Just, everyone chill.
Here is the statement that Brandon made…
“We’ve been embraced in Britain in a way that I’ll never understand, and it’s such a wonderful thing. But over here [in America], people are still so obsessed with Led Zeppelin and Nirvana, those sorts of bands, that nobody else is allowed [to grow]. It’s not just us; there are a lot of great bands that have been held down or confined by the influence of these people that we’ve put up on pedestals. I’m tired of it, you know? I just want to knock them all off! And people don’t like that attitude. It’s almost like they don’t believe that it’s possible that anybody else can be the real deal.”
- The Killers’ Brandon Flowers tells Entertainment Weekly
He is talking about the close-minded people here in the US that are not open to new music. The Killers have a lot to offer.
I don’t blame him for feeling frustrated…
He is talking about the close-minded people here in the US that are not open to new music.
No, I don’t believe that’s at all true. But let’s parse this and see, shall we?
“But over here [in America], people are still so obsessed with Led Zeppelin and Nirvana, those sorts of bands, that nobody else is allowed [to grow].”
Nobody is allowed to grow.
Oh, really? If that were the case, Nirvana wouldn’t have been ground-breaking because “obsessed” Led Zep fans would be so “closed-minded” they would shun anything that they felt “threatened” the pedestal they’ve put them on.
It’s INSULTING, to fans, to true musicians, and to real artists, what he said, lumping the music tastes of the American populous into one tiny box labelled “closed-minded”, based on the FACT that his band is, as a very good friend of mine that happens to be a fan of The Killers says – “so NOT in the same league as Led Zep.”
I take the above statement as: It’s all the fault of music fans and bigger bands that came before us, that we aren’t on a pedestal like Led Zep, and we should be. (If you can clearly, rationally, and maturely present a real counter-argument to that assessment then please do so, because all most anyone has done here is just call me names and say “Ken SUCKS!” as their argument, and I’ve grown wary of the bullshit and would like to get back to the business at hand.)
FUCK. THAT. NOISE.
How is that not insulting? How is that NOT whining that he isn’t as “successful” as he desires to be in America?
Nobody said they aren’t at all successful, what was said was this:
1 – his definition of success is convoluted
2 – as “successful” as he is, he is misguided enough to believe that his success is being hindered by greater bands and music fans
3 – selling out arenas and record sales does not automatically quantify as talent/worthy of success/artistic integrity, considering the popularity of crap such as The Spice Girls, The Jonas Brothers, and Nickelback. Clearly, there is no correlation between the two, so it is NOT valid proof of a band’s/musician’s/artist’s merit.
As Brandon said, “people don’t like that attitude”, (in reference to his delusional notion that Led Zep and Nirvana should be removed from lofty status so that he has a chance at similar greatness, or that they should be up on just as high a pedestal, and they aren’t because of music fans).
We don’t like it because, borrowing/paraphrasing Kenny’s words for a moment, it’s completely “megalomaniacal”.
Megalomaniac: 1 : a mania for great or grandiose performance 2 : a delusional mental disorder that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur
For those still confused about the point to this blog – Brandon, in so many words, has lamented that his band is not embraced in America as Led Zep and Nirvana, and he blames MUSIC FANS, because he believes they should be. Seriously.
So now everyone is supposed to just scramble to put him on a pedestal to assuage his ego? I don’t think so.
Brandon and the High-Horse he rode in on can Lick My Starfish, as can the lot of you that have done nothing but sling petty insults as opposed to maturely discussing the ISSUE, that only THREE POSTERS (myself included) seemed to have grasped.
I’m going to have to say Ken is more talented, though on the lazier side.
hahhahahha Ken this is hilarious…I’m glad you’re doing something productive with your birthday present! Miss ya bro…come back to Bangkok!
This is in reply to your Tuesday post about what else you should have done. I can’t comment on that particular entry so I’m making due. Imagine that this immediately follows the May 26, 2009 post.
You were supposed to pick up my mysterious phone calls. You know you want to, and the more you deny yourself, the more stalker-ish I feel, leading to a decline in my idea of self-worth. You can avoid this by simply answer your cell, silly.